UFO Radio Interview: “David Marler, Forgotten 1964 UFO Burn Victim Case”

Streamed live: 3 March 2020

(Podcast UFO, Sebago, Maine)

Source: Martin Willis Live Shows (YouTube channel)

Video text:
“Guest David Marler with a premier discussion of his most recent research of a UFO Burn Victim Case - [Hobbs] New Mexico 
[2 June, daytime] 1964. There are early audio excerpts of an original witness and a bonus clip at the end of the show of an on camera interview with victim, Charles [Keith] Davis [was eight years old at the time of the incident] after he has tracked down 56 years after the incident. Triangle UFOs briefly discussed. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/join/2959947

BIO FOR DAVID MARLER: https://davidmarlerufo.com/bio

DETAILS

UFO Burn Victim Case - New Mexico 1964

During an impressive wave of UFO sightings in New Mexico in 1964, one of the most credible and well-documented accounts went hitherto unnoticed. Despite nationwide media attention regarding other UFO experiences in New Mexico that year, the most dramatic and horrific one was missed by all but a few local and regional news outlets. This case involved not just the sighting of a UFO, but an apparent attack and severe burning of an eight year old boy by an unidentified flying object.

Although briefly referenced in the UFO literature at the time, this case was essentially ignored by the UFO community as well as Air Force Project Blue Book. After 55+ years, this case is finally seeing the light of day. Weaving together archival audio recordings, newspaper accounts, as well as a first-hand, on-camera interview done with the witness / burn victim years later, we can now fully appreciate this case. Beyond that, it will be shown that this was just one in a series of similar events that played out across the United States in 1964.

When evaluating UFO reports, sightings are one thing. Physical evidence left by a UFO is another. But the burns inflicted on an eight year old boy is a category unto itself. This is one of the more disturbing UFO encounters on-record.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAM2dMWPsjU

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UFO Article & Radio Interview: “David Marler – Investigating Historical UFO Cases –September 4, 2018”

By Alejandro Rojas

(OpenMinds.tv/Open Minds UFO Radio, Tempe, Arizona)

David B. Marler is author of the book, Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation.

http://www.openminds.tv/david-marler-investigating-historical-ufo-cases-september-4-2018/41960

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UFO Article & Video Interview: “David Marler: Triangular UFOs”

29 April 2016

(ufohub.net, U.S.A.)

UFO HUB presents an interview with U.S. UFO researcher

David B. Marler.

http://www.ufohub.net/david-marler-triangular-ufos

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UFO Article & Radio Interview: “David Marler – The Battle of LA UFO Incident – October 9, 2018”

By Alejandro Rojas

(OpenMinds.tv/Open Minds UFO Radio, Tempe, Arizona)

The so-called “Battle of Los Angeles” occurred on 24 and 25 (p.m. into a.m.) February 1942.

Several UFOs were first sighted over Los Angeles, California, on the night of 24 February 1942.

Excerpt from the Wikipedia article, “Battle of Los Angeles”:

“Air raid sirens were sounded throughout Los Angeles County at 2:25 a.m. and a total blackout was ordered. Thousands of air raid wardens were summoned to their positions. At 3:16 a.m. on February 25, the 37th Coast Artillery Brigade began firing 12.8-pound anti-aircraft shells into the air at the object(s); over 1400 shells would eventually be fired [1]. Pilots of the 4th Interceptor Command were alerted but their aircraft remained grounded. The artillery fire continued sporadically until 4:14 a.m. The objects were said to have taken about 20 minutes to have moved from over Santa Monica to above Long Beach. The ‘all clear’ was sounded and the blackout order lifted at 7:21 a.m.”

It was the contemporary news agencies who named the UFO incident, The Battle of Los Angeles.

The interview starts at 25 minutes.

http://www.openminds.tv/david-marler-the-battle-of-la-ufo-incident-october-9-2018/42006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh9AM2AzYOk

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UFO Article and Radio Interview: “David Marler – Triangular UFOs – October 14, 2013”

By Alejandro Rojas 
(OpenMinds.tv/Open Minds UFO Radio, Tempe, Arizona)

Host Alejandro Rojas interviews David B. Marler about his book, Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation:

http://www.openminds.tv/david-marler-triangular-ufos-october-14-2013/

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UFO Radio Interview: “Jan Aldrich, Documenting The Origins of the Modern UFO Phenomenon”

Streamed live: 13 October 2020

(Podcast UFO, Sebago, Maine) 

Source: Martin Willis Live Shows (YouTube channel)

Video text:

“Dedicated longtime UFO researcher, Jan Aldrich joins the show (DAVE MARLER joins in 58:00) to discuss Project 1947, which is a world-wide effort to document the origins of the modern UFO phenomenon. Research for the project has yielded many early-era UFO reports via the FOIA, newspaper articles and contemporary accounts. DAVID MARLER joins us for 15 minutes in the second hour.

BIO: Jan L. Aldrich resides in Canterbury, Connecticut, USA. Education BA History from University of Maryland, Retired US Army Master Sergeant with assignments in meteorology, intelligence, personnel, and safety. Assignment locations include four in Korea, two in Germany, one in Italy, two at the Field Artillery School, Fort Sill, Oklahoma, and others in the US. Also, retired from the US Postal Service. Studied UFOs for over 55 years. Contributing author of the book “UFOs and Government”, also author of reports on Ghost Rockets, the 1947 UFO Wave. Currently working on digitizing project of the Center for UFO Studies UFO report files. Correspondent for overseas UFO magazines. Website www.project1947.com”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqOLM1Td4X8 

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Jan L. Aldrich, U.S. UFO Researcher

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UFO Lecture: “Triangular UFO’S with David Marler”

Published: 12 June 2017

(National Atomic Testing Museum, Las Vegas, Nevada)

Source: National Atomic Testing Museum (YouTube channel)

David B. Marler is the author of the book, Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation.

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UFO Article & Radio Interview: “David Marler – Farmington, New Mexico Mass UFO Sighting – December 29, 2015”

By Alejandro Rojas 
(OpenMinds.tv/Open Minds UFO Radio, Tempe, Arizona)

The Farmington (New Mexico) UFO incidents occurred on three consecutive days (15, 16 and 17 March 1950):

http://www.openminds.tv/david-marler-farmington-new-mexico-mass-ufo-sighting/36016

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UFO Website: “DAVID MARLER – UFO RESEARCHER” (U.S.A.)

UFO researcher David B. Marler is the author of the book, Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation:

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UFO Audio Files: “LIBRARY: Audio Files”

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Among other audio files, David B. Marler presents three audio files about the 11 October 1973 Charles Hickson/Calvin Parker (Pascagoula, Mississippi) UFO case:

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UFO News Article: “History Channel visits Rio Rancho’s UFO researcher”

11 July 2020

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The newspaper presents an interview with UFO researcher David B. Marler.

History features Marler in an episode (on 18 July 2020) of the UFO documentary film TV series, “Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation.”

In this episode, Christopher Mellon visits Marler, who has one of the world’s largest UFO collections.

Mellon is a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and a former Minority Staff Director, Senate Intelligence Committee. Mellon is now the National Security Advisor for the To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA).

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UFO News Article: “HOBBS CASE CITED –If There’s Smoke--There’s Also UFO”

22 March 1969

(Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, Texas)

Source: NewspaperArchive.com

Quote from the article (the part of the article that focuses on the 2 June 1964, Hobbs, New Mexico, case):

“ALMOST FIVE years ago, a ‘big black top’ whooshed over the top of a laundry in Hobbs and burned a young boy so badly ‘he looked like something out of a horror movie.’

‘You couldn’t see his eyes. His ears and mouth were turned wrong side out. Just to look at him would make you want to go into hysteria.’

‘It Was No Fraud, No Hoax’

Mrs. Joann Idleman, 319 N. Lynch, Hobbs, reluctantly recalled the incident in a telephone interview recently. ‘It was no fraud, no hoax — this thing really happened,’ she said.

It happened to her son, Charles Keith Davis [was eight years old at the time of the incident], now 13, on June 2, 1964. He can remember vividly how the hissing Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) came at him about 4 p.m. on a clear day.

Up to now, there has been little publicity.

*     *     *

Makes Hobby Of UFO Study

C. A. ROBINSON, a Plainview businessman who claims he has been a UFO ‘nut’ for 20 years, says the Hobbs, Levelland and Lubbock Lights cases are examples of ‘something people don’t want to understand and want to forget.’

‘The Air Force,’ he says, ‘has for 20 years attempted to cover up things like that. What could you expect? It’s nothing but a whitewash job.’

Robinson came upon a brief resume of the Hobbs incident while perusing one of numerous books he has read on UFOs. He said it disturbed him.

Young Davis had gone with his grandmother, Mrs. Frank Smith, to a laundry the Smiths operated at 600 E. Marland St. on that unforgettable afternoon.

Relates Story Of ‘Black Top’

WITH NO hesitation in his voice, the teenager told The Avalanche-Journal that he walked out a rear door of the laundry and went into the alley.

‘I looked up in the sky and it came at me . . . it looked like a big black top . . . it burned me, but the ground wasn’t touched or anything,’ he said.

‘The thing just came down and burned him,’ Mrs. Smith said. ‘I could see him under it, but I didn’t know what it was. His hair was standing up on his head, I couldn’t holler and he couldn’t either. He ran into the laundry and the skin was falling off his face.’

Told Story At Hospital

AT THE hospital, Mrs. Smith told the story for the first time. ‘The doctor didn’t pay me too much mind at first. Then I told him: ‘I know this sounds kind of funny, but whatever burned him wasn’t anything in the laundry.’

Mrs. Smith, the only adult witness, said the UFO looked like a long burner. ‘I would say it was about four feet tall, at was ablaze at the end of it. Then there was more of a smoke — real dark carbon-like smoke — that looked like it was coming out of oblong holes. I don’t know what it was.’

The boy’s T-shirt wasn’t burned. Mrs. Smith pulled the boy to her to put out the fire. The blouse she was wearing wasn’t scorched anywhere.

Mrs. Smith remembers hearing a ‘hissing sound, or whoosh, like something blew the building.’

*     *     *

Youngster Laid Up Six Weeks

THE YOUNGSTER was hospitalized for more than two weeks, and spent another month at home recuperating. ‘They wouldn’t even let him have a mirror,’ his mother said.

The family is still in the dark about what really happened.

THE T-SHIRT, burned scrapings and Mrs. Smith’s blouse reportedly were sent to the FBI in Washington with the promise that the family would be advised of the results of the analysis. The Air Force says the incident never has been ‘officially’ reported to it.

‘They told us they would let us know, but we’ve called them and sent letters and haven’t heard a word. They just keep putting us off,’ Mrs. Idleman claimed.

Davis, now an eight grader at Houston Junior High School in Hobbs, suffered second degree burns of the face.

An attending physician, who declined to be quoted by name, said ‘There was nothing any different about the burns — the only question was: What in the world caused them?’

DR. JAMES E. McDonald, senior physicist at the Institute of Atmospheric Physics at the University of Arizona and a leading authority on UFOs, also has become interested in the case.

‘It’s quite puzzling,’ he said. ‘It’s not one paralleled by similar cases. I’m most inclined to take seriously the account given by the grandmother.’

McDonald said Mrs. Smith was sincere, and expressed ‘horror, and an inability to move.’

‘It’s exotic — such a bizarre case,’ he added.

Although McDonald is puzzled by it, he said he had talked with enough people that ‘I don’t see any basis for rejecting it at all.’

The Plainview businessman also was impressed by the case, and urged a full investigation of it.”

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