NOTE:
Tuesday, 31 March 2020
UFO News Article:
“Runaway Speedometer Heralds UFO Sighting – Lindseys Sight High-Flying ‘Thing’ –
‘Definitely Unconventional . . .’ ”
8 November 1957
(Alamogordo Daily News, New Mexico )
Source: Newspapers.com
Clipped by: sshaffer_freedomfighters, 10 May 2019
The whole article:
“A runaway speedometer and a ‘high-flying, silvery oval object’ sighted
by three Alamogordo
residents, constituted today’s chapter in the unfolding Unidentified Flying
Objects story.
What was labelled as ‘definitely an unconventional flying machine’ was
spotted yesterday morning [7 November 1957] by Trent Lindsey, Alamogordo insurance man; his wife, Jewel;
and his son, Byron, 22.
The mysterious object was sighted at a point between Escondida and
Orogrande, about 35 miles
from Alamogordo on Highway 54, while the
Lindsey’s were traveling by car to El
Paso .
Prior to the sighting, the speedometer on the Lindsey auto began to
register in erratic fashion, and continued to operate in ‘a wild way’ until
after the flying object disappeared from view.
Didn’t Stop Motor
Since the latest rash of ‘flying saucer’ reports began circulating in
the Southwest (and elsewhere), several motorists have complained that flying
objects have stopped car motors and cut off or dimmed car headlights.
But the object sighted by the Lindsey’s failed to affect the Lindsey car
in such fashion.
Indeed, the senior Mr. Lindsey expressed the view that the erratic
functioning of the car speedometer possibly could be traced to natural causes.
As to the speedy, high-flying object sighted by the Lindsey’s, Mr.
Lindsey is sure of only one thing: it did not appear to be a ‘conventional
flying machine.’
The object, Mr. Lindsey said, lacked the definable lines and angles of a
conventional aircraft, and on that point the three Lindseys are in complete
agreement.
Beyond that point, however, Mr. Lindsey is highly sceptical about the
significance, if any, of the sighting. He explained: ‘There are lots of things
flying around in the sky these days, particularly in this part of the country.
Probably most, if not all, are explainable.’
The younger Lindsey, who leaves within a week for Argentina where he will take advantage of a
scholarship at the University
of Buenos Aires , and a
former employe of The Daily News, attached more importance to the sighting,
saying:
‘When the speedometer needle suddenly jumped over to 110 (as far as the
needle could go), mother said that we better stop the car and see if we could
see any thing that might be causing the strange action.
‘The needle kept skipping back and forth between 60 and 110 and making a
clattering sound.
‘While the needle was jumping around, dad pointed toward the southwest
and said, ‘I suppose you think that is something.’ And it was something. It was
cylindrical in shape, silvery, and moving toward the southwest.
‘It appeared to be very high up, I would guess about 10,000 feet , and
traveling at high speed.
‘It was a clear day (the hour of the sighting was 9:20 a.m.) and the
object appeared to be made of metal rather than gaseous in nature.
‘The object seemed to be following the curvature of the [Earth] instead
of moving in a straight line as would an airplane.
‘Also, the object seemingly did not have the definite lines and angles
of conventional aircraft.
‘We saw the object for only about three minutes. It disappeared over the
Organ Mountains .
‘When the speedometer needle first bounced
over the 110 mark, the flying object was probably nearer to us —
maybe directly overhead — but we didn’t see the object until it was at least 30 miles away from us.
Needle Leaned To Object
‘We traveled some 15 miles before the
speedometer corrected itself, and we had no trouble during the rest of the trip
or on the way back from El Paso .
Strangely, the needle kept wavering to the side where the object was instead of
toward the zero mark on the speedometer.’
The senior Mr. Lindsey checked with an Alamogordo garage
mechanic and was advised that the speedometer’s erratic action could have been
caused by ‘lack of proper lubrication.’
Mr. Lindsey said that he experienced no previous
trouble with the speedometer on his car, a 1954 Mercury.
Oddly, the object sighted by the Lindseys apparently was traveling in
practically the same orbit followed by a mysterious object sighted Monday by
James Stokes of Alamogordo ,
retired U. S. Navy man employed at Holloman.
Stokes described the object as ‘egg shaped’ and said its color was on
the order of mother of pearl.
Stokes sighted the object about 10 miles south of Orogrande on Highway 54. The
object, he said, came in ‘from the northeast’ and caused his car engine to
stall and the car headlights to fade.
Stokes reported that he received a slight ‘sunburn’ from the object.
On Same General Course
The object sighted by the Lindseys seemingly followed the same general
course as that traveled by the UFO sighted by Stokes; and, in a general way,
the descriptions of the two objects coincided.
Even so, the senior Mr Lindsey inclines to the view that the action of
the car’s speedometer and the sighting of the flying object were coincidental,
rather than related. Mrs. Lindsey and son Byron, however, aren’t so sure about
that.”
My comment:
This is an electromagnetic (EM) interference (the car’s speedometer
registered in erratic fashion) UFO case.
NOTE:Escondida , New
Mexico , is located to the west of Highway 54 and 205 kilometres (128 miles ) to the north
of Orogrande , New Mexico . It is therefore possible that
the UFO incident occurred (on Highway 54) 56 kilometres (35 miles ) to the north of Alamogordo , New
Mexico . Alamogordo
is located 59
kilometres (36 miles ) to the north of Orogrande.
NOTE:
Related posts:
(tageo.com photo)
U.S. Government UFO Document:
“SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT(S): Unidentified Flying Object Sighted near Orogrande, New Mexico at Approximately 1310 hours,
4 November 1957 by Mr. [James Stokes], Civilian Employee, Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico”
18 November 1957
(Project Blue Book , U.S. Air Force, Washington , D.C. )
Quote from the document (not written in U.S.
Department of Defense document format):
“TO: Commander
34th Air Division (Defense)
ATTENTION: Inspector General
1. Forwarded herewith in accordance with AFR
200-2, is information obtained by our OSI Detachment, Holloman AFB, New
Mexico, from Mr. [James Stokes], Civilian Employee
(Electronics Technician – Telemetry, GS-11), Holloman AFB, New Mexico, who
advised that while driving south of Orogrande, New Mexico on Highway 54 at
approximately 1310 hours, 4 November 1957, he noticed that his car radio began
to fade as though the radio tube filaments had been turned off, and the engine
of his car slowed and quit. [James Stokes] advised that he pulled off the
highway and at that time noticed another motorist pointing toward the sky. He
stated that he then observed an unidentified flying object approaching from a
northeast direction which appeared to swoop toward the town of Orogrande and headed north. [James Stokes]
estimated the speed of the object to be extremely fast (in the Mach 1 or Mach 2
range), stating that this estimation was based on his comparison of the time
the object was visible and the known distance between the San Andres Mountain
Range and the Sacramento Mountain Range. [James Stokes] indicated that he felt
a rising temperature and that his face was slightly sunburned, however, the
burn was not painful. [James Stokes] furnished the following information which
is submitted for any action you may deem appropriate.
a.
Description of the Object:
(1) Parabolic shape.
(2) Size compared to a known object, size of a pen held in the
hand at arms length.
(3) Color, Egg shell white or pearl color.
hand at arms length.
(3) Color, Egg shell white or pearl color.
(4) Single object, sighted twice or two objects sighted at
two separate and distinct intervals.
(5) No discernible features or details other than general
shape.
two separate and distinct intervals.
(5) No discernible features or details other than general
shape.
(6) No tail, trail or exhaust or means of propulsion visible.
(7) No sound.
(8) Heat was noticed by the observer when object passed,
allegedly giving the observer a sunburn, reportedly
not painful.
not painful.
…
R. S. RIFE
Lt Colonel, USAF
District Commander”
Related posts:
(ufocasebook.com image)
James Stokes, AFMDC Engineer
(nicap.org photo)
The yellow line indicates where James Stokes saw the UFO,
(Google photo)
Monday, 30 March 2020
UFO News Article:
“Flying Object Seen On Desert”
5 November 1957
(Las Vegas Daily Optic, Las Vegas , New Mexico )
Source:
NICAP.org
The whole
article:
“An electronics
engineer reported seeing an unidentified flying object on an isolated desert
highway near Alamogordo in southern New Mexico Monday
afternoon [4 November 1957].
James Stokes, 42-year-old engineer in an upper air research project at the
Earlier in the
day, officials at White Sands Proving [Ground] said two army patrols reported seeing a
similar object or objects on Sunday [3 November 1957].
Object
Stops Cars
Similar reports
came Sunday from Levelland, Tex.
Stokes, in a
taped interview for Terry Clark news director of station KALG in Alamogordo , reported that object approached from the
northeast over the Sacramento mountains . He
said the first indication that something out of the ordinary was happening was
a gradual fading of the radio in his automobile.
Then, he said
the car engine died, and he noticed that several other cars on the highway had
stopped. He said he noticed that the occupants were getting out of their cars
and pointing toward the sky.
Passed
At Highway
‘Looking up,’
Stokes said in the interview, ‘I saw a light-colored egg-shaped object making a
shallow dive across the sky to the northeast.
‘Then it wheeled
and made a pass at the highway, across the road not more than two miles ahead.
‘It then moved away toward the Organ mountains near White Sands Proving [Ground] to the southwest.
‘As it passed at its closest point I could feel a kind of a heat wave but there was no sound.
No
Visible Portholes
‘It had no
visible portholes and there was no vapor trail, smoke of flame visible.’
(Stokes said he
remembered the details precisely because he pulled out a notebook and jotted
down everything he saw.)
‘When I got back
to my car and checked the engine, I found it intact, but the battery was
steaming. But it started with no trouble and I headed for a phone to notify
officials at the Air Force Missile development Center at Alamogordo .’
(An Air Force
public information officer told United Press Monday night he had no information
to report.).
Severe
Sunburn
Stokes said that
he noticed later, after he reached home, that he had a severe sunburn.
He said most of
the motorists who saw the object were engineers or technicians who work on
rocket projects at White Sands. He identified two others at the scene as Allan
D. Baker of Las Cruces , N.M. ,
and a Mr. Duncan, also of Las Cruces .
Stokes said it
appeared to be 500 feet
in length, with a shiny surface like the mother of pearl.
He said it
remained visible for about three minutes—from 1:10 p.m., m.s.t. to 1:13
p.m.
Seen By
Patrols
Otero county’s
sheriff’s office had no reports on the object.
Officials at White Sands Proving [Ground], where missiles are tested, said two separate military patrols reported seeing an unidentified flying object [or] objects Sunday over an isolated area of the proving grounds near ‘Trinity’ site where the first atomic bomb was exploded in 1945.
They investigated the site, but found no markings.”
My comment:
It is very interesting
to note that the 3 November 1957 UFO incident at White Sands Proving Ground
occurred just two months after the
activities at the Air Force Missile Development Center (Holloman AFB) started.
Anyone
researching the UFO phenomenon will sooner or later discover that UFOs apparently
are very interested in military bases and military technology.
http://www.nicap.org/articles/571104orogrande_article.htm
Wikipedia article: “Air Force Missile Development Center”:
Wikipedia article: “Air Force Missile Development Center”:
Quote from the above Wikipedia article:
“The Air Force Missile Development Center and its predecessors were Cold War units that conducted and supported numerous missile tests using facilities at Holloman Air Force Base, where the center was the host unit (‘Holloman’ and ‘Development Center’ were sometimes colloquially used to identify military installations in the Tularosa Basin.)
Active: 1 September 1957[2]-1 August
1970[3]”
Wikipedia article: “White Sands Missile Range ”:
Quote from the Wikipedia article:
“White Sands Missile Range (WSMR) is a military testing
area operated by the United States Army. The range was originally established
as the White Sands Proving Ground on July 9, 1945.
Significant events
* The first atomic bomb (code named Trinity) was test detonated at
Trinity Site near the northern boundary of the range on July 16, 1945; seven
days after the White Sands Proving Ground was established.[7]
* White Sands V-2 Launching Site. (This was followed by the testing of
American rockets, which continues to this day, along with testing other
technologies.)
* NASA’s Space Shuttle Columbia landed on the Northrup Strip at WSMR on March 30, 1982 as the conclusion to mission STS-3.[8] This was the only time that NASA used WSMR as a landing site for the space shuttle.”
* NASA’s Space Shuttle Columbia landed on the Northrup Strip at WSMR on March 30, 1982 as the conclusion to mission STS-3.[8] This was the only time that NASA used WSMR as a landing site for the space shuttle.”
Related posts:
James Stokes, AFMDC Engineer
(nicap.org photo)
The yellow line indicates where James Stokes saw the UFO,
(Google photo)
Satellite photo of
(tageo.com photo)
Map of White Sands Missile
Range and Tularosa Basin ,
(wikimedia.org)
(wikimedia.org image)
UFO Case Directory (EMCAT):
“Stokes Incident
Nov. 4, 1957
Orogrande, New Mexico”
(NICAP.org)
The whole UFO case report:
“Brad Sparks:
Nov. 4, 1957. About 8-10 [4?]
miles SSW of Orogrande , New Mexico (BBU)
1:10 p.m. (MST). James Stokes, electronics instrumentation technician,
Rocketsonde Branch, High Altitude Test Division, AF Missile Development Center,
Holloman AFB, NM, a Mr. Duncan of Las Cruces, NM, and Allan Baker of Holloman
AFB. Stokes was driving S down Hwy 54 when his radio faded and the car slowed
[stopped?] as if the battery was failing then he noticed 6-12 cars ahead of him
had stopped and drivers were out looking at the sky (looking behind him to the
NE), including Duncan and Baker. Stokes stopped and got out, saw pearl-white
oval or egg-shaped object about 500
ft wide with slight purplish tinge heading S at high
speed estimated 1500-2000
mph from the NE below elevation angle of Sacramento Mtns
ridgeline, descending from about 5,000 ft above ground level in shallow dive to
about 1,500-2,500 ft
altitude as it swerved to the W to pass to the S of Stokes and the other
stopped cars about 2 or 3-5
miles at closest, then circling around headed W and
disappearing. The same or another object appeared in the NE (as if the object
had completely circled) and performed same rounded course but passing farther
to the S of the parked cars [about 5 miles ?] and disappeared in the W. Duncan took
35 mm
film of the object. Stokes noticed a wave of heat from the object at closest
approach, later that evening was sunburned, but it cleared up the next day. (Sparks ; APRO; BB files; McDonald list; Saunders/FUFOR
Index; etc,)”
NICAP.org presents a U.S.
government (Project Blue Book, U.S. Air Force) document that pertains to the
UFO case.
Related posts:
James Stokes, AFMDC Engineer
(nicap.org photo)
The yellow line indicates where James Stokes saw the UFO,
(Google photo)
Satellite photo of
(tageo.com photo)
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